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Jack, midi, alsa, rozentuin...

 
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BerichtGeplaatst: Vr Mrt 11, 2011 3:49 pm    Onderwerp: Jack, midi, alsa, rozentuin... Reageren met citaat

Hoi,

Ik wil graag en midifile kunnen afspelen, maar daarnaast ook een beetje kunnen editen, bijvoorbeeld de toonsoort+pitch veranderen of het tempo. Daarvoor is het programma Rosegarden erg geschikt.

Probleem alleen dat ik geen geluid heb. Ik kan me herinneren van het installeren van F14 dat het aan de praat krijgen van goed werkend geluid een crime was. Uiteindelijk kon ik alles spelen en daarnaast ook de laptop op mijn flatscreen aansluiten en via de hdmi (zit op mn laptop) ook geluid krijgen.

Goed, had ik de midi nog niet geprobeerd...

Volgens dit topic op fedoraforum.org moest ik de volgende pakketten installeren:
Code:
yum install rosegarden4 lilypond perl-XML-Twig qjackctl qsynth PersonalCopy-Lite-soundfont kdebase

en eventueel vkeydb om mee te spelen (een keyboardje).
Vervolgens Jack starten met de qjackctl gui, instellen, dan fluidsynth starten middels de qsynth gui, nog wat instellen, dan rosegarden starten en spelen maar.

Het werkt echter niet. Direct na een reboot lukt het een bestand te spelen. Maar open ik dan een ander bestand, is het geluid weer pleite! Het kost me dan moeite het weer terug te krijgen en ik heb er geen vat op wat het hem nu doet (de hele cyclus qjackctl/qsynth/rosegarden opnieuw bijlangs gaan helpt soms wel, soms niet).

En ja.
Code:
yum remove pulseaudio alsa-plugins-pulseaudio


Ik ben het allemaal een beetje kwijt nu...

Ondanks alle geknoei doet geluid bij films het nog wel (vlc, avi, mkv) gelukkig.

Iemand een idee?

** edit
midi op de mac is nog veel erger...
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BerichtGeplaatst: Za Mrt 12, 2011 8:10 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Heb je timidity ge´nstalleerd?
Code:
yum install timidity++

Daarmee kun je midi-files afspelen, en ook dingen als tempo en pitch aanpassen.
Timidity kan ook draaien als server, en dan kan Rosegarden hem gebruiken om geluid te produceren.
Code:
timidity -aA -Os
Hierna kun je in Rosegarden met het device panel de connectie naar timidity maken.
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BerichtGeplaatst: Vr Mrt 18, 2011 8:42 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Hoi,

Dankjewel voor je suggesties!

Ook met timidity werkt het helaas niet out of the box. Timidity zelf wil inderdaad midi spelen, maar staat het Rosegarden niet toe:
Code:
timidity -iA
Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 33868, period size 3760 bytes
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
Can't open pcm device 'default'.
Couldn't open ALSA pcm device (`s')

Geen geluid uiteraard. Ik ben momenteel aan het googlen...

** edit
Vervolgens wilde de timidity++ gui pas weer laden na herstarten van de computer.

** edit
Met jackd server gestart en timidity -Oj -iA een crash ('segmentation fault') van timidity

** edit
Om een of andere vage reden werkte het jackd/fluidsynth/rosegarden van mijn eerste post vanavond weer wel. De timidity server dus niet.
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BerichtGeplaatst: Za Mrt 19, 2011 2:16 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Je timidity opstart wijkt af van de mijne...
Code:
$ timidity -iA
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3

en
Code:
$ timidity -iA -Os
Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 32768, period size 8192 bytes
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3
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BerichtGeplaatst: Zo Mrt 27, 2011 5:37 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Hoi,

Nou... omdat het niet werkte.
Code:
$ timidity -iA -Os
Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 33868, period size 3760 bytes
TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3


Vervolgens Rosegarden opgestart (ander venster).
Code:

$ rosegarden
Setting graphics system for Qt 4.5+ to: native
Thorn - true
System Locale: en_US
Qt translations path: /usr/share/qt4/translations
Qt translations not loaded.
RG Translation: trying to load :locale/en_US
RG Translations loaded successfully.
Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-16x16"
Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-32x32"
Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-48x48"
Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-64x64"
Loaded application icon "rg-rwb-rose3-128x128"
NOTE: Found stylesheet at ":/rosegarden.qss", applying it
QSettings::endGroup: No matching beginGroup()
AlsaDriver::AlsaDriver [begin]
Rosegarden 10.10 - AlsaDriver [ALSA library version 1.0.23, module version 1.0.22.1, kernel version 2.6.34.6-47.fc13.i686]
PluginFactory::instance(dssi): creating new DSSIPluginFactory
LADSPAPluginFactory::discoverPlugins - discovering plugins; path is [/home/Nikki/.dssi] [/usr/local/lib64/dssi] [/usr/lib64/dssi] [/usr/local/lib/dssi] [/usr/lib/dssi]
LADSPAPluginFactory::discoverPlugins - done
PluginFactory::instance(ladspa): creating new LADSPAPluginFactory
LADSPAPluginFactory::discoverPlugins - discovering plugins; path is [/home/Nikki/.ladspa] [/usr/local/lib64/ladspa] [/usr/lib64/ladspa] [/usr/local/lib/ladspa] [/usr/lib/ladspa]
jackd 0.118.0
Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details

LADSPAPluginFactory::discoverPlugins - done
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
apparent rate = 48000
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|16bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames (21.3 ms), buffer = 2 periods
ALSA: final selected sample format for capture: 16bit little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for capture
ALSA: final selected sample format for playback: 16bit little-endian
ALSA: use 2 periods for playback

JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK sample rate = 48000Hz, buffer size = 1024
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - creating disk thread
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 2 JACK physical outputs
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "rosegarden:master out L" to "system:playback_1"
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "rosegarden:master out R" to "system:playback_2"
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 2 JACK physical inputs
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "system:capture_1" to "rosegarden:record in 1 L"
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from "system:capture_2" to "rosegarden:record in 1 R"
JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem

  ALSA Client information:

    14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)                  (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 655362, cap 99]
    128,0 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 0)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,1 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 1)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,2 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 2)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,3 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 3)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]

AlsaDriver::setCurrentTimer((auto))
    Current timer set to "system timer" with timer checks
AlsaDriver::initialiseMidi -  initialised MIDI subsystem

Composition::getTrackById(0) - WARNING - track id not found, this is probably a BUG src/base/Composition.cpp:1560
Available track ids are:
AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,0)
CREATED OUTPUT PORT 3:out 1 - unnamed for device 0
Renamed 129:3 to General MIDI Device
AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,1)
AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 1, action 1
WARNING: AlsaDriver::renameDevice: Cannot find device 1 in port map
audio file manager emitting fake setValue(100)
RosegardenDocument::openDocument: Successfully opened document "/home/Nikki/.local/share/rosegarden/autoload/autoload.rg"
Object::connect: No such slot Rosegarden::AudioInstrumentParameterPanel::updateAllBoxes() in src/gui/editors/parameters/AudioInstrumentParameterPanel.cpp:81
Object::connect:  (receiver name: 'Audio Instrument Parameter Panel')
Object::connect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentMover.cpp:58
Object::disconnect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentMover.cpp:65
Object::connect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentPencil.cpp:61
Connecting my port 3 to 128:0 on reconnection
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 0
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: fuzzy match 128:0 TiMidity port 0 (write) available with fitness 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available
DataBlockRepository::clear()
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice: Having a look at device 1000
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice: Having a look at device 10000
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice: Having a look at device 0
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice(0): device is a MIDI device
rosegarden: could not connect to socket
rosegarden: No such file or directory
SystemFont::loadSystemFont[Qt]: wanted family LilyPond-feta-rosegarden at size 12, got family LilyPond-feta-rosegarden (exactMatch 1)
SystemFont...
[... meer SystemFont regels ...]
...any of the fonts in "xinfonia"
Comparing current version "10.10" with latest version "11.02"
MAIN WINDOW DISPLAY WARNING:  type 4 text<h3>Newer version available</h3>

  ALSA Client information:

    14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)                  (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 655362, cap 99]
    128,0 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 0)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,1 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 1)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,2 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 2)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,3 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 3)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]


Terug naar het timidity venster zie ik nu (onder de port regel):
Code:
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
Can't open pcm device 'default'.
Couldn't open ALSA pcm device (`s')


Excerpt uit ps aux:
Code:

Nikki     3326  0.1  0.4  30696 13668 pts/2    S+   18:14   0:00 timidity -iA -Os
Nikki     3327  0.0  0.0   5272  1784 pts/3    Ss   18:14   0:00 /bin/bash
Nikki     3349  6.2  1.0 168964 34040 pts/3    Sl+  18:14   0:21 rosegarden
Nikki     3354  0.0  0.0      0     0 pts/3    Z+   18:14   0:00 [rosegarden] <defunct>
Nikki     3355  0.8  0.1  38696  4216 ?        Ssl  18:14   0:02 /usr/bin/jackd -T -ndefault -r -dalsa -dhw:0 -r48000 -p1024 -n2 -S


Als ik nu in Rosegarden een midi file open, zegt Rosegarden:
Code:
QSettings::endGroup: No matching beginGroup()
I am here!
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
Composition::notifySegmentAdded
AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,1)
AlsaDriver::setRecordDevice: device 0, action 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "20:0 UM-2 MIDI 1 (duplex)" requested for device 0
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available
WARNING: AlsaDriver::renameDevice: Cannot find device 0 in port map
AlsaDriver::addDevice(0,0)
CREATED OUTPUT PORT 3:out 1 - unnamed for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "20:0 UM-2 MIDI 1 (duplex)" requested for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available
Renamed 129:3 to General MIDI Device
audio file manager emitting fake setValue(100)
RosegardenDocument::openDocument: Successfully opened document "/home/Nikki/.local/share/rosegarden/examples/aveverum.rg"
DataBlockRepository::clear()
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice: Having a look at device 1000
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice: Having a look at device 10000
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice: Having a look at device 0
Studio::getMetronomeFromDevice(0): device is a MIDI device
Warning: Composition::~Composition() with 3 observers still extant
Observers are: 0x8f03e70 [N10Rosegarden19SegmentParameterBoxE] 0x8f3a780 [N10Rosegarden17TrackParameterBoxE] 0x9156628 [N10Rosegarden20CompositionModelImplE]
Object::connect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentSelector.cpp:73
Object::connect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentMover.cpp:58
Object::disconnect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentMover.cpp:65
Object::connect: No such signal Rosegarden::CompositionView::contentsMoving (int, int) in src/gui/editors/segment/compositionview/SegmentSelector.cpp:73
Connecting my port 3 to 128:0 on reconnection
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: fuzzy match 128:0 TiMidity port 0 (write) available with fitness 1
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: connection like "" requested for device 0
AlsaDriver::setPlausibleConnection: nothing suitable available

  ALSA Client information:

    14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)                  (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 655362, cap 99]
    128,0 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 0)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,1 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 1)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,2 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 2)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,3 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 3)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]

Druk op play:
Code:

SoundDriver: setMappedInstrument() : type = 1 : channel = 2 : id = 1000
[... meer setMappedInstrument ...]
SoundDriver: setMappedInstrument() : type = 2 : channel = 2 : id = 10023
SoundDriver::initialiseAudioQueue -- new queue has 0 files
AudioPlayQueue::~AudioPlayQueue()
JackDriver::stopTransport: resetting m_haveAsyncAudioEvent
SoundDriver::clearAudioQueue

Geen geluid. Als ik in studio>manage midi devices een andere port aanklik (128:0 is geselecteerd), bijvoorbeeld 128:1:
Code:
Disconnecting my port 3 from 128:0 on reconnection
Connecting my port 3 to 128:1 on reconnection
ReconnectDeviceCommand::execute -  reconnected device 1 to 128:1 TiMidity port 1 (write)

  ALSA Client information:

    14,0 - (Midi Through, Midi Through Port-0)                  (DUPLEX) [ctype 2, ptype 655362, cap 99]
    128,0 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 0)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,1 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 1)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,2 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 2)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]
    128,3 - (TiMidity, TiMidity port 3)         (WRITE ONLY) [ctype 1, ptype 2, cap 66]

en Timidity rapporteert opnieuw
Code:
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
Can't open pcm device 'default'.
Couldn't open ALSA pcm device (`s')

Geen geluid (Rosegarden):
Code:
SoundDriver::initialiseAudioQueue -- new queue has 0 files
AudioPlayQueue::~AudioPlayQueue()
JackDriver::stopTransport: resetting m_haveAsyncAudioEvent
SoundDriver::clearAudioQueue

Rosegarden afgesloten:
Code:
QMainWindow::saveState(): 'objectName' not set for QDockWidget 0x8eee2f8 'Special Parameters;
RosegardenSequencer::quit()
Warning: Composition::~Composition() with 1 observers still extant
Observers are: 0x8eba9f0 [N10Rosegarden20CompositionModelImplE]
jack main caught signal 12

En Timidity stoppen.

Ik komlater wel weer terug om te vertellen wat er gebeurt als ik qjackctl/fuidsynth gebruik (eten staat koud te worden Razz)
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